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If anyone's interested in a copy of one of Vallalars' speaches as recorded by Madam Blavatsky I've scanned it. Also there is her impression of him and most indians who had little faith in his message actually.

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Kandasamy Ganesan
Luke Sheridan Williams,
I am interested. Please send me a copy.
samy_ganesan@hotmail.com
Saturday, July 7, 2007 at 21:40 pm by Kandasamy Ganesan
lamp_of_heaven
Thank you for that scan. Her comments on His disappearance are a bit confusing. I think she tries to confine Vallalar's attainments into the limitations espoused by her Theosophy, which do not include either physical immortality or actual dissolution of the body into light.
Sunday, July 8, 2007 at 11:53 am by lamp_of_heaven
Kandasamy Ganesan
It was interesting to read that sheet.
Yes, His High theme discourses went to inattentive ears. They didn’t get benefited instead had bitter disappointment that He didn’t raise the dead, as promised.
K. Ganesan
Monday, July 9, 2007 at 08:49 am by Kandasamy Ganesan
lamp_of_heaven
Vallalar promised the ability to revive the dead and said that he had this power. People were disappointed that he didn't perform this miracle as some public display.
Perhaps this power does exist and has been granted with some frequency since the manifestation of Arutperunjothi in Vallalar's great invokation in the 1870s.
From the story of Lazarus in the Bible, we are used to the idea of the adept (in physical body) touching the corpse and it arises newly alive. But perhaps it doesn't occur in this way.
There are very many tales of near death experience in modern times, many of them coroborated by medical evidence that the person was clinically dead. I have never read an account of this experience wherein the individual did not meet a Divine Person of Light just prior to reentering the body. Christians often say it is Jesus. Others say it is an angel, but always it appears like a Divine Human Being. This being reviews the person and then the body begins the return, sometimes with the will of the person to reurn into the body, sometimes against that persons will.
So perhaps this power exudes from the Pranava Deha, not from the Suddha Deha. Perhaps Arutperunjothi has Graced many adepts with this power now. perhaps many of these persons meet Vallalar Himself.
I believe this awakening from death is a relatively new phenomena. Of course over the ages many mystics have described visiting spiritual worlds, but there is very little account of an ordinary person waking from apparent death.
I think such an occurrence would have been mentioned before if it had occurred as often as it does now.
Interesting that Vallalar warns not to burn the body. One ancient account of one waking from death was told by Plato. The dead soldier, Er, was about to be burned, when he awoke and told of such visions.
Such an event was so rare that Plato felt he needed to describe it in his Works. If such an occurrence was as frequent in the past, before the 20th century, why would it have not been recorded more often?
Tuesday, July 10, 2007 at 12:22 pm by lamp_of_heaven
sendhiljayaprakasam
I am interested to hear Vallalar's recorded speech. Can you please send me a copy.
Thanks
sendhil
Thursday, July 10, 2008 at 11:46 am by sendhiljayaprakasam
Ramanujam jam
Dear Duke Sheridan Williams,
Regarding this, contacting separately through e.mail.
Kindly send a copy of the Vallalar's speech, recorded.
Daeiou Team. Madurai, Tamil Nadu, India.
Thursday, July 10, 2008 at 20:28 pm by Ramanujam jam
Ramanujam jam
Dear Anbar Ganesan,
From the discussion forum it shows that U received a copy of the Vallalar's speeches as recorded by Madam Blavatsky.
When Luke Sheridan Williams was contacted through e.mail he said that he has deleted it.
So, if it is available, kindly send it.
Daeiou Team, Madurai.
Sunday, July 13, 2008 at 20:45 pm by Ramanujam jam
Ramanujam jam
Here is the scanned doc
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Monday, July 14, 2008 at 07:18 am by Ramanujam jam
Ramanujam jam
On 20.7.2008 / 10.15 a.m.
Thiru Sivapandian, Soudi Arabia informed this.
He belongs to Erode.
Enrolled himself in Erode Sanmarga sangam and studied Suddha Sanmargam.
for nearly 10 years.
He wondered, how the speech of Vallal Peruman could be ?
and wanted to hear Vallal Perumanaar's speech.
From the information given by Th. Luke Sheridan Williams of Sydney, Australia
it was learnt that the speech has been recorded and the scanned pages now
appearing in this website.
So Perumanaar's voice was not recorded.
Daeiou Team, Madurai
Monday, July 21, 2008 at 06:25 am by Ramanujam jam
Thilagavathi Krishnan
from my intrepretation, when vallalar said that arutperumjothi will raise the dead. we must first ask, who was he referring to as the dead? He could have referred to us. the so called living dead. because from the day we are born we are actually heading to nothing but death. so we are actually not living but instead dying day by day. only by following the teaching of sanmarga one can defeat this cycle of birth and death.
another intrepretation is arutperumjothi will make the dead ( from previous birth) to be reborn as sanmargis and then they will acheive an immortal life.
i dont think vallalar said that he could bring anyone from death. that would be too late.
i also believe that valallar could have brought back anyone from death as he had knowledge of all the "sitthu" . but as he didnt want people to know they way he may a oil lamp burn with water, he never wanted to win the hearts of his followers (unlike many spiritual leaders today) by performing miracles. not that he couldnt.
jothi ramalingam
Monday, July 21, 2008 at 08:34 am by Thilagavathi Krishnan
Ramanujam jam

The e.mail received from Mr.Luke Sheridan Williams is put up below.
The article has been received from him.
In turn he informs the name of the Lady at the Library Ms. Naomi
The Campbell Theosophical Research Library,
4th Floor, 484, Kent Street, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia.
For having sent the scanned items, (articles) we must be thankful to both
Mr. Luke Sheridan Williams and the lady Miss.Naomi. of that Library.
Daeiou Team
Ramanujam
I let the lady at the library know, these articles were published at the website her name is
Naomi by the way from the The Campbell Theosophical Research Library
4th flr 484 Kent St
Sydney NSW 2000
Thanks
Luke Williams
Tuesday, July 22, 2008 at 04:02 am by Ramanujam jam