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Hi,
I am one of the admirers of Thiru Vallalar and I love him very much. I want to know about the thai poosa jyothi darisanam happening every year in Vadalur.. How it is happening?? is it a natural one or some one will lit that big jyothi??
pls clear my doubt..
thanks and regards,
Vivek.S
Hi Vivek! Greetings for your desire to know about Tahi Poosam celebrated in Vadalur. The Light is manually lit by the Gurukkal and it is not a natural one. But our Vallalar says the jyothi dharsanam should be viewed within ourselves with the grace of Supreme Knowledge ie., Arutperumjothi Andavar. Thai Poosam day is a fullmoon day. So the moon and sun are in full form of light. In that time our spiritual light called Agni should be worshiped within ourselves. Vadalur jyothi darshanam is a outlook of our inner experience. Vallalar Thiruvadigale Saranam.

Dear Sundara Kannan,
I have a question about our spiritual light called Agni . Where does this Agni reside in our body? Is this the place on our forehead between eye brows (Agni place)?
K. Ganesan

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Dear Sundara Kannan,
I have a question about our spiritual light called Agni . Where does this Agni reside in our body? Is this the place on our forehead between eye brows (Agni place)?
K. Ganesan
Dear Ganesan! Pranams. Agni means not in the form of light but it is called as suddha ushnam ie., pure heat. This is not felt by our five senses but only by our experience. Here that Agni is situated whole in the body. It may be explained as refreshing our blood vessels in a new form of oli anu which helpful us to improve our compassion and meditation experience. Though the Agni is spread in the whole the place of it is the centre head. The eye brow point is gate way for entering into that Sabai. Only by entering through that point we can reach our goal ie., the centre place where we realise ourselves. Vallalar Thiruvadigale Saranam.

Dear Sundara Kannan ,
“Agni” here is heat. Yes, our Vallalar asks us to increase the heat within us. Here we talk about light, Jyothi, heat and “Agni”. Jyothi is outlook/symbol to our inner experience we are supposed to have. Jyothi represents “Agni”. “Agni” represents heat. Heat and light are inseparable. I can say that my body is heated. It doesn’t mean that I radiate light from that heat. What does predominantly Jyothi represent for? Heat or Light?
K. Ganesan

Dear Ganesan
Here jyothi represents the supreme knowledge. Our vallalar says in prose order that Agni is stands for the spiritual light, sun light stands for Jeevan, moon light stands for the mind and the star light stands for the five senses as a decending order. So if we get the real spiritual supreme knowledge than we understand the nature of universe and the nature of the metobolism are same. First of all the light arutperum jothi said by Vallalar is invisible but feelable. The word jothi is handled by Vallar as the supreme knowledge vanishes the all maya screens and it explains the real value of Royal I. Vallalar thiruvadigale Saranam

Dear Sundara Kannan ,
So, Jyothi represents the supreme knowledge. It is neither heat nor light. This supreme knowledge (#1) vanishes/removes the maya/ignorance/darkness. It is interesting to know that Jeevan / Spirit (#2) is related to sun , the mind (#3)is related to moon , The five ( eye, ear, nose, tongue and skin ) senses (#4) are related to star .
K. Ganesan

Dear Ganesan!
Yes. Vallalar compares the Lights of Agni, Sun, Moon and Stars in decending order. They are in Universe ie., Andam. The same lights are within our body ie., Pindam. So we are having a path to attain the supreme knowledge from small light one to the bigger one. The five senses are functioning with the support of mind (ie., Four Karanas - Manam, Buddhi, Siddham and Ahangaram)and the mind is having support from Jeevan and the Jeevan has reflection of the real light of Soul. Enjoying the supreme knowledge by the successful journey in the spiritual path is called Mukti ie., Self realissation. This is the enterance of Suddha Sanmargam. Yes! The other samaya margas are having the goal of Mukti where as Suddha Sanmargam pass the level mukti and it has the ultimate aim of SIDDHI which can be explained as deathless life. We can understand upto the stage of mukti deathless life is impossible. Vallalar thirvadigale Saranam

Dear Sundara Kannan ,
Yes, mind doesn’t have its own identity. This is like Moon light is not owned by moon. Jeevan is supposed to move upward towards this supreme knowledge. Instead many of us live as slave to our own mind and body. Our Vallalar tries to free us from our present mind and body boss. Jothi always flows upward. This reminds us to move forward. Jothi throws light on us to enlighten us.
What are those Four Karanas - Manam, Buddhi, Siddham and Ahangaram?
Can we call Manam as mind?
Can we call Buddhi as knowledge?
Can we call Siddham as thought?
Can we call Ahangaram as ego?
Why did you say that the deathless life is impossible? Our Vallalar gave out everything to all of us because of the compassion He has on all of us. We all believe that Our Vallalar’s life is deathless life. Our Vallalar called us to come to Him to get the boon of Deathless life very soon right in this birth itself. You know almost all songs by our Vallalar. I am sure that you know the song that tells this. Saying impossible is like unbelieving the words of Vallalar. It is true that we didn’t physically see anyone whose life is deathless life. It doesn’t mean that there is no simple way to get this. I know a saying. I write here below. This is not to hurt you but to encourage.
Those who say its impossible should stay out of the way of those doing it.
K. Ganesan

Dear Ganesan!
First of all I thank you very much for your kind discussion with me for a long time. I solemnly request you to read my previous letter once again. I DID NOT SAY THAT DEATHLESS LIFE IS IMPOSSIBLE. If I disagree with the principle of deathless life, how I can be a follower of Vallalar? Please try to understand that UPTO THE LEVEL OF MUKTI DEATHLESS LIFE IS IMPOSSIBLE. Vallalar pass this level of Mukti that the other sages who attain this level of Mukti gets SAMADHI. But our SUDDHA SANMARGAM HAS THE AIM OF SIDDHI AND NOT MUKTI. Please go through the Arutperumjothi Agaval lines. It says like following:
Mukti is the first step for Siddhi and Siddhi is the final goal
MUKTI ENBADHU NILAI MUNNURU SAADHANAM
ATHTHAKAVU ENDRARUL ARUTPERUM JOTHI
SIDDHI ENBADHU NILAI SERNTHA ANUBHAVAM
ATHTHIRAL ENDRARUL ARUTPERUM JOTHI
Yes! We have to pass over the stage of Mukthi to attain the GOAL OF SIDDHI ie DEATHLESS LIFE. Mukthi means enjoying the Darshan of God with ourselves and dissolve within it. So the stage is called SAMADHI.
SAMADHI is nothing but DEATH. The sages who attain the stage Mukthi OUGHT TO GET REBIRTH and then they have to continue in the path of Suddha Sanmargam.
Dear Ganesan! I am sorry to say, you have understood me and I BELIEVE VALLALAR AS A ONLY ONE GURU WHO LEADS ME IN A GOOD WAY. Till this day I pray Vallalar to guide me to achieve the goal of Deathless life.
Now I come to the subject of Manam, Buddhi, Siddham and Ahangaram.
The MIND is the whole subject of the sub divisions of four Karanas.
Manam is the stage that the subject understanding. For example if we see a Mango Manam notify it is Mango.
Buddhi comes to a decision of the same subject with previous experience. For example this type of fruit already we have eaten and with that experience the decision is made.
Siddham brings the other things related to the mango ie., the taste and temptation.
Ahangaram fulfill the decision ie., the mango should be bought.
These are the four steps of Mind whis called Karanas. What a minute divisions? This is our cultural and spiritual asset that Indian ancestors have left to us.
Another personal question. Where are you and are you related to Tamilnadu?
Vallalar Thiruvadigale Saranam.

Dear Sundara Kannan ,
I am sorry. I misunderstood your one full sentence “We can understand upto the stage of mukti deathless life is impossible. “by splitting that into two sentences like “We can understand upto the stage of mukti” and “ deathless life is impossible. “
It is good to know about Mukthi and Siddhi. You said that Mukthi is nothing but Samathi and Samathi is nothing but Death. There is an interesting meaning to the Tamil language word “Samathi”. Samathi is the combination of two Tamil words Samam and Athi. Samam in English is “equal” and Athi in English is “the source/First and foremost thing”. We all accept that the God is the first and foremost thing. We can say a person is in the state of Samathi if that person has realized that he is nothing but God (ie., He is equal to God) and his all actions are with this feeling of oneness. The term Samathi has to be used only to a realized person whether or not that person live in his physical body. But we use this to anyone who dies. There is a good intention behind this. This came from our belief that one who died reached the God(or became equal to God).
According to you, Siddhi (Deathless) is superior to Mukthi/ Samathi (Death) .
It was nice know about all four parts of Mind. It looks like 4th part of the mind is ego. We are not the mind. But many of us didn’t accept this.
Those who are in utter darkness/ignorance say that they are the body, body only.
Those who are with some light/knowledge say that they are not the body but the mind.
Those who are with complete light(Arul Perum Jothi)/supreme knowledge say the everlasting truth “we are nether body not mind but the Supreme Power itself”.
I was born in Pondicherry near Tamil Nadu. I now live in USA(America) for the past 10 years.
K. Ganesan

Dear Ganesan!
There is a reason for quoting Samathi is nothing but death. Death means
body will not be used by soul no more. In the level mukthi also body remains without soul. It is burried or fired. So that I told likethat.
There are many proofs in Vallalar's Thiruvarutpaa and prose order.

Dear Sundara Kannan ,
Samathi and mukthi are the status of the soul. The soul has to leave the body once the body is unable to function anymore. Samathi/mukthi is not death. Non functioning of the body is death. This rule is common to all souls whether or not the soul has reached the highest status like Samathi/mukthi. We use the body to elevate our soul. We need to think and do to elevate us. We can think and do only when our body is healthy enough. We breath out now and we are not guarantied that we can breath in after. Our Vallallar also warned us about this uncertainty. He also urged us not to waste even a moment but to use it to elevate us to the supreme level soon.
K. Ganesan

Dear Ganesan!
We ourselves are in the stage of Mukthi. But we have to realise it. Our efforts are to acheive towards reallsation of ourselves. Regarding the soul the realisation is Mukthi. Our Vallalar has no aim of Mukthi.
He insists us for Siddhi. For the stage of Siddhi the body is essential. So DHEKA MUKTHI is Siddha's path. VIDHEKA MUKTHI is other saints path. This is the main difference. So accoring to Vallalar's principle BODY IS HAVING A VITAL ROLE.
VALLALAR THIRUVADIGALE SARANAM
Sundara Kannan

Dear Sundara Kannan ,
The body to the Siddhi can not be the physical body we all live with. Our physical body has to decompose one day. The body to the Siddhi can not be shown to anybody who lives in this physical body. None knows about how the Siddhi without living in a physical body communicates with us. We may say we saw Siddhi in our dream. Most of our dreams are nothing but reflections our own thoughts. It is a mystery to all of us. The concept here is like this. When I live only for me , I also die when my body dies. When I practice myself to live only for ever but not for me, I live for other even after my body dies. Selfless person already owns deathless body. A person living only for others don't have to look for possessing a deathless body. None can tell any other way to own a deathless body. Looking for other ways can never fetch anything useful
K. Ganesan

Ella uyirgalum inbuttru vazhga,
Hi friends,
i would like to say few words about death.
Death has two type, first is faced by general public which is called by siddhars as Non-Veg death(asaiva maranam) and second is veg(saiva maranam)which is nothing but samathi. those who die in first case, their nine holes in their body left open, all 10 pranas leave the body and soon start to decay where as in the second case the nine holes are kept closed resulting 10th hole which is to Sirsabai is opened, through that the last breath enter so that the soul is not separated from the body. this body temp will be same as living body, the body won`t decay for hundreds/ thousands of years. you can open and see the body after hundreds years too.
the second type has many higher levels too, thats what now ongoing discussion. before our father introduce maranamilla peruvazhvu, this has many types such as Thega mukthi, Vithega mukthi, paramukthi. this is the chain of evolution where our father attained greatest mukthi and sidhi.
i hope this may help to discuss further for our clear understanding.
Ramalingam Kirubai.
ramu

Dear Ramu,
We now-a-day call all kind of deaths Non-Veg or Veg as samathi only. The body after death may decay or not. We don't see anywhere the body which didn't decay. Can this Veg death body do anything useful? We didn't get the opportunity to see our Vallalar's body either. We all believe that His body got disappeared somehow.
K. Ganesan

Hi ganesan,
have u heard about AGAPEI SIDDHAR? one of his song
SAIVAM ANATHADI AGAPEI
THANAGA NINDRATHADI
SAIVAM ILLEYEL AGAPEI
SALAM VARUM KANDAYO
not only this siddhar, from Agathiyar many siddhar tells in thir songs about the death.
witness for undecayed body have many, in gova church one fathers body is kept more than 50 yrs even visitor can see that. also many places in tamilnadu during yearly guru poojai time they take out the siddhar`s body, doing abisheham and rituals. i heard many cases but never saw, also i read few such cases in news paper too. so Siddhar calls these undecayed bodies are SIVAM OR SAIVA MARANAM in their songs.
Our father vallalar entered a new era and he is the first GJANA SIDDHAR to acheive MUTHEGA SIDDHI.

Dear Ramu!
Here in Agapei Siddhar poem SAIVAM AANATHADI means the Soul stands unseperated with the wholeness of Supreme Knowledge. The Soul which lives alongwith the Lord Sivam is called SAIVAM. This level is Mukthi.
Yes! You are correct. There is a slight differnce. Mukthi stage is related to Soul and not for body.
Body neither ruin nor inactive. This is possible only the path of Vallalar ie., Suddha Sanmargam.
This point is noted at many places in Thiruvarutpaa and prose order.
Vallalar Thiruvadigale Saranam.
Sundara Kannan

Dear Ramu,
You said that saiva stands for Veg and asaiva stands for Non-Veg. Yes, we all call a person saiva if that person is non meat eater. In the same way we call a person asaiva in case if that person did eat meat. Meat eater is called asaiva and non meat eater is called saiva. This is okay to use this way to distinguish people from their eating habit they have with them.
The word Saiva is antonym (A word having a meaning opposite to that of another word) to asaiva . We build antonym in Tamil language by adding the letter ‘a’ in front of a word to get antonym to that word. For Example, the Tamil word “Sutham”(Clean) is antonym to the Tamil word “Asutham”(dirty).
We all know that the Tamil word “Asai” stands for movement. We get antonym to the word “Asai” by taking away the letter “A” from “Asai” So, “Sai” is antonym to “Asai”.
“Asai” represents the person who is in movement/disturbance/wavering/unstable. “Sai” represents the person who is undisturbed / steady /stable/ immobile. The lord Siva is also referred as “Sai”.
We can also interpret that a person is meat eater because that person is in the darkness without knowing the truth. Meat eaters always get disturbed. They can’t be stable.
K. Ganesan